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- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 18:43:44 PST
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #238
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 4 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 238
-
- Today's Topics:
- 5 by 5...
- Getting Coax Seal OFF?
- Have a say about ARRL policy
- HDN Releases
- Madison to Kalamazoo info...
- No more FCC Daily Digest postings to rec.radio.amateur.misc
- ORBS$063.MISC.AMSAT
- Probable demise of the online repeater directory project
- QST review of Dual-Bander HTs
- Satellite progs on World
- Software for DOS-PC for decoding Morse
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-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 18:45:26 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!cs.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!ns1.nodak.edu!dp1.lib.ndsu.NoDak.edu!gregg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 5 by 5...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Ok, here's a trivial question that I don't know the answer to:
-
- Where did the phrase, "I read you five by five." come from and what does it
- mean. I know it means good copy, but what specifically does it mean? Does it
- come from the early days of radar, of ham radio, of military aviation or what?
-
- XXX
- Joe in Fargo wants to know.
- **************************************
- Internet: Gregg@Plains.NoDak.edu
- Packet: KN0A@W0ILO.#SEND.ND.USA.NOAM
- LL: 701-237-8353
- The Library
- North Dakota State University
- Fargo ND
- It should be:
- "The Gregg Library"
- but I have to die first.
- **************************************
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 17:26:58 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nigel.msen.com!ilium!rcsuna.gmr.com!kocrsv01!c2xjcb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Getting Coax Seal OFF?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2kjnai$1if8@st6000.sct.edu>, msmith@sct.edu (Matt Smith) writes:
- >
- > >Can anyone suggest a decent method for taking Coax Seal *off* of a
- > >connector? It's a mess, and I'm not sure how to do it.
- >
- > Well, the ideal thing to do would be to put electrical tape on the connector
- > _BEFORE_ you put the coax seal on, but since that's too late... The hasty
- > option would be to cut the connector off and put on a new one. If you want
- > to save the connector then just get off whatever you can then use the ball
- > of that to get the rest off. I hope that Coax Seal is similar to the tar or
- > roll of really sticky black or beige stuff that most people use. (Also
- > referred to as "Ickum-pucky" (don't ask me)) Otherwise, cut off the
- > connector.
-
- I've never tried this, but at it's worst it means that you'll lobe-off
- the connector (which is what you were going to do anyway) . . .
-
- Try your standard, run-of-the-mill, $1.29/12oz can "Carburetor
- Cleaner" spray (Gunk, STP, etc.) . . . it is great at disolving tarry
- stuff. 1st get off as much of the Ickum-pucky as possible, then spray
- on the carb cleaner; let it sit a while, then wipe-off with a trashy
- cloth rag. Repeat until all traces are removed.
-
- The only worry I have is if it will bother the coax jacket any. If it
- does, then get your wire-cutter out, other wise you're done.
-
-
- BTW:
- Carb cleaner spray beats ANY commercial insecticide spray (like Raid,
- etc.) for INSTANTLY killing bees and wasps. I had a wasp bothering me
- in the garage once; it laughed at the "Raid Flying Insect" spray I
- blasted at him. He landed on the window, I sprayed him with carb
- cleaner, and he instantly fell to the floor begging me not to stomp on
- him (sorry Charlie!). But I digress . . .
- --
- James C. Bach Ph: (317)-451-0455 The views & opinions expressed
- Advanced Project Engr. GM-NET: 8-322-0455 herein are mine alone, and are
- Powertrain Strategy Grp Amateur Radio: WY9F NOT endorsed, sponsored, nor
- Delco Electronics Corp. Just say NO to UNIX! encouraged by DE or GM.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 17:08:34 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!kbad.eglin.af.mil!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!pixar!bruce@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Have a say about ARRL policy
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In response to a "questionable" ARRL decision, I have formed a
- single-topic discussion list on ARRL policy. Copies of the discussion
- will be made available to various ARRL officials, to ignore or read as
- they see fit. This effort is not sponsored or approved by ARRL,
- although I am an ARRL member and a field organization candidate. The
- list is open to all.
-
- This will be the only announcement of the list that I make to the usenet.
- To subscribe, send mail to LISTSERV@pixar.com with this text:
-
- subscribe arrl-policy YOUR-NAME-HERE YOUR-CALLSIGN-HERE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Feb 94 04:27:09 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.kei.com!news.oc.com!utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HDN Releases
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The following files were processed Saturday 2-26-94:
-
-
- HAMNEWS [ HAM: Bulletins and Newsletters ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- ARLB020.ZIP ( 690 bytes) ARRL Bulletin 02/22/94 - SM
- election results
- ARLK007.ZIP ( 2010 bytes) Keplerian Bulletin 02/19/94
- ARLX008.ZIP ( 817 bytes) Special Bulletin 02/17/94 -
- Invitation to Cuba
- GM4AUP.ZIP ( 4937 bytes) RSGB President GM4AUP speech
- 02/20/94 to Sandown Park VHF
- Convention
- IRTS0220.ZIP ( 2609 bytes) IRTS News Bulletin 02/20/94
- OPDX148.ZIP ( 4258 bytes) Oh / Pa DX Bulletin 02/21/94
- RSGB0227.ZIP ( 8063 bytes) RSGB Bulletin 02/27/94
- RTDX0218.ZIP ( 1922 bytes) RTTY DX Bulletin 02/18/94
- WICEN44.ZIP ( 2544 bytes) WICEN Bulletin 02/20/94
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 27850 bytes in 9 file(s)
-
-
- HAMPACK [ HAM: Packet Communications programs ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- SELCAL13.ZIP ( 21268 bytes) Marine SITOR SECAL translator
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 21268 bytes in 1 file(s)
-
-
- HAMSAT [ HAM: Satellite tracking and finding programs ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- OBS056.ZIP ( 5225 bytes) Amsat Orbital Elements #056
- 02/25/94
- PCTRK30A.ZIP ( 282757 bytes) 3D Satellite orbit visualization
- 1/2
- PCTRK30B.ZIP ( 323898 bytes) 3D Satellite orbit visualization
- 2/2
- SPC0228.ZIP ( 3277 bytes) Space Bulletin 02/28/94
- TRAK300A.ZIP ( 214116 bytes) TrakSat v3.00 Satelite Tracking Pgm
- TRAK300B.ZIP ( 189047 bytes) TrakSat v3.00 Satelite Tracking Pgm
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 1018320 bytes in 6 file(s)
-
-
- HAMSWL [ Shortwave Schedules and programs ]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- CSM.ZIP ( 1601 bytes) Christian Science Monitor SWBC Sked
- update - 03/08/94 to 09/28/94
- SWRADIO.ZIP ( 42834 bytes) SW Radio Construction on a budget
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- 44435 bytes in 2 file(s)
-
-
- Total of 1111873 bytes in 18 file(s)
-
- Files are available via Anonymous-FTP from ftp.fidonet.org
- IP NET address 140.98.2.1 for seven days. They are mirrored
- to ftp.halcyon.com and are available for 60-90 days.
-
- Directories are:
- pub/fidonet/ham/hamnews (Bulletins)
- /hamant (Antennas)
- /hamsat (Sat. prg/Amsat Bulletins)
- /hampack (Packet)
- /hamelec (Formulas)
- /hamtrain (Training Material)
- /hamlog (Logging Programs)
- /hamcomm (APLink/JvFax/Rtty/etc)
- /hammods (Equip modification)
- /hamswl (SWBC Skeds/Frequencies)
- /hamscan (Scanner Frequencies)
- /hamutil (Operating aids/utils)
- /hamsrc (Source code to programs)
- /hamdemo (Demos of new ham software)
- /hamnos (TCP/IP and NOS related software)
-
- Files may be downloaded via land-line at (214) 226-1181 or (214) 226-1182.
- 1.2 to 16.8K, 23 hours a day .
-
- When ask for Full Name, enter: Guest;guest <return>
-
- lee - ab5sm
- Ham Distribution Net
-
-
- * Origin: Ham Distribution Net Coordinator / Node 1 (1:124/7009)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:43:05 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!rees@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Madison to Kalamazoo info...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2l33hc$517@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, jason@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Jason Hanson) writes:
-
- In addition, any info on Kalamazoo sights (romantic or otherwise) would be
- helpful.
-
- The best route from Madison to Kazoo is via the Lake Michigan ferry, the
- Badger. But it doesn't operate this time of year.
-
- The premier tourist attraction in Kazoo used to be the Gibson guitar
- factory. Now it's the brewery.
-
- Check Hunt's Guide for other things to see and do.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Feb 94 17:15:22 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!kbad.eglin.af.mil!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!pixar!bruce@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: No more FCC Daily Digest postings to rec.radio.amateur.misc
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Since the FCC Daily Digests are now available via anonymous FTP to
- FCC.GOV, I won't be posting any more of them to this newsgroup.
-
- I do hope that you will retrieve and read the digests often. It's critically
- important for us to follow and understand the FCC's operations.
-
- Thanks
-
- Bruce Perens
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 4 Mar 94 13:43:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ORBS$063.MISC.AMSAT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-063.M
- Orbital Elements 063.MISC
-
- HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
- FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX March 4, 1994
- BID: $ORBS-063.M
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
-
- Satellite: POSAT
- Catalog number: 22829
- Epoch time: 94045.75585944
- Element set: 254
- Inclination: 98.6608 deg
- RA of node: 122.7699 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0009759
- Arg of perigee: 191.0097 deg
- Mean anomaly: 169.0872 deg
- Mean motion: 14.28003980 rev/day
- Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 2022
- Checksum: 326
-
- Satellite: MIR
- Catalog number: 16609
- Epoch time: 94061.02012332
- Element set: 154
- Inclination: 051.6205 deg
- RA of node: 003.6927 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0004649
- Arg of perigee: 015.8866 deg
- Mean anomaly: 344.2953 deg
- Mean motion: 15.60576251 rev/day
- Decay rate: 1.2762e-04 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 45933
- Checksum: 285
-
- Satellite: HUBBLE
- Catalog number: 20580
- Epoch time: 94060.95287285
- Element set: 452
- Inclination: 028.4689 deg
- RA of node: 204.7466 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0006400
- Arg of perigee: 049.7311 deg
- Mean anomaly: 310.4334 deg
- Mean motion: 14.90500352 rev/day
- Decay rate: 4.86e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 01337
- Checksum: 280
-
- Satellite: GRO
- Catalog number: 21225
- Epoch time: 94056.01798028
- Element set: 67
- Inclination: 028.4620 deg
- RA of node: 290.4640 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0003856
- Arg of perigee: 037.8429 deg
- Mean anomaly: 322.2943 deg
- Mean motion: 15.40194914 rev/day
- Decay rate: 4.590e-05 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 03962
- Checksum: 295
-
- Satellite: UARS
- Catalog number: 21701
- Epoch time: 94050.07315151
- Element set: 479
- Inclination: 056.9834 deg
- RA of node: 272.3681 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0002165
- Arg of perigee: 100.1172 deg
- Mean anomaly: 260.0857 deg
- Mean motion: 14.96377326 rev/day
- Decay rate: 3.162e-05 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 13325
- Checksum: 272
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Mar 94 09:24:51 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tcj@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Probable demise of the online repeater directory project
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- John E. Taylor III (rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com) wrote:
-
- > I'm an ARRL member, and considering ARRL put a fair amount of effort
- > into compiling the Repeater Directory, I'd feel they weren't using
- > my money wisely if they did _not_ enforce their copyright to the
- > Directory.
-
- I replied:
-
- > I'm an ARRL member, too, but I couldn't disagree more with John's
- > opinion on this issue....While I certainly recognize the ARRL's
- > right and obligation to protect its commercial interests, its
- > primary purpose is supposed to be furthering the art and practice of
- > amateur radio. When these two objectives come into conflict I for
- > one expect it League to support the latter objective without even a
- > moment of hesitation.
-
- John responds:
-
- > Me, too. I'm not saying we don't _need_ an on-line repeater
- > directory; I think one would be great. All I was pointing out is
- > that copyright law says that your compilation of facts, and its
- > particular presentation, is _yours_....Anybody who wants to compile
- > a list of repeaters and publish it, electronically or otherwise, in
- > their _own format_, is free to do so
-
- On second look, it appears that you and I may be in "violent agreement" after
- all, John. It's this business about "format" that appears to be at the heart
- of the matter.
-
- I don't think anyone has yet contested the fact that the *data* iteself is not
- protected by copyright law. Several folks have cited a precendent in which
- the court found in favor of a company that had been sued by a telephone
- company for republishing information from its white pages, even though this
- information included errors that were specifically designed to uncover this
- kind of activity. Given this, I imagine that the League would be hard pressed
- to win a court case, even if it could demonstrate that the *data* had been
- lifted directly from their directory.
-
- So the question remains: exactly how does the *format* of N2JWQ's compilation
- infringe on that of the ARRL directory? It's true that the data items in the
- Directory are a subset of N2JWQ's database, but this doesn't seem like an
- infringement to me since all of these data items could be independently
- verified by just about anybody with an HT. And while I readily recognize that
- the League deserves credit for the resources they devoted to compiling this
- data, I don't believe this *effort* is protected by copyright law either.
-
- Based on my own inspection of N2JWQ's data, the only potential infringement I
- can find is the codification scheme used to describe a repeater's class of
- access (e.g. o=open, c=closed, etc.) While I would consider this nit-picking
- on the part of the League, it really isn't worth worrying about since it would
- be a trivial matter to convert these codes to some other representation.
-
- Even if I put aside my irritation with the League for impeding a project that
- would add tremendous value to the usability of this data, I still can't
- understand exactly how the League perceives that N2JWQ has infringed on its
- copyright. If I were to photocopy their Directory and sell my version for $4
- instead of $6, then I think they'd have a damn good case against me. But from
- my point of view, nothing like that has occurred here.
-
-
- Todd, KB6JXT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:24:12 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!blood@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QST review of Dual-Bander HTs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have done the mods and the th78 will NOT xmit below 137 mHZ or so.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Mar 94 11:13:11 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!bbc!ant!boyer@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Satellite progs on World
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Scott Ehrlich (wy1z@netcom.com) wrote:
-
- : I have now placed some satellite tracking programs on World:
-
- : - stsplus.zip
-
- : - stsorbit.zip
-
- : - traksat {trak300a.zip & trak300b.zip} (latest version of traksat)
-
-
- : They are available via anonymous FTP via
-
- : ftp ftp.std.com:/pub/hamradio/pc/satellite
-
- Just a short comment. I have traksat and it is really great and dead easy
- to use.
-
- John B
- John.boyer@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Mar 94 11:24:20 GMT
- From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!bbc!ant!boyer@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Software for DOS-PC for decoding Morse
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sasse (tt1h@dv.st.dlr.de) wrote:
- : I am no radio amateur but enjoy listening to world radio. I am looking for
- : software to decode Morse with (DOS). Who can help?
-
-
- There is a program called Hamcomm ver 2.2 that will decode morse via a
- very simple single op-amp interface. It is dos based I think you can get
- it from ftp.funet.fi. If not try archie.
- Oh yes I alost forgot it does rtty as well.
-
- John B
- John.boyer@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 4 Mar 94 19:42:58 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: SUBSCRIBE
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Please add me to your mail list.
- Thanks!
- Tom KA8HUZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:52:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <rcrw90-280294091343@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <CSLE87-020394103111@145.39.1.10>, <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: On-line Repeater Directory
-
- In article <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu> ez006683@chip.ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd) writes:
- >
- >Gary thinks that RICO is a violation of basic civil rights and as such
- >should not be brought to bear against anybody because you could
- >prosecute under other existing laws based upon actions rather than
- >intent nad if we let the government (RICO is a criminal recourse) get
- >their foot in the door we could end up with Janet and the ATF in
- >Newington if we aren't careful.
-
- That's right on, good mind reading. While I think the ARRL position is
- shaky at best here, I don't want to see tanks rumbling down Main St.
- in Newington either. The BATF and FBI death squads are already bad
- enough, let's not have the Copyright Office or the FCC start donning
- ninja suits and slaughtering Americans too.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:16:21 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Mar2.144907.26098@bongo.tele.com>, <CM2960.93I@ucdavis.edu>, <2l3nuj$pr@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: JARGON
-
- In article <2l3nuj$pr@bigfoot.wustl.edu> jlw3@cec3.wustl.edu (Jesse L Wei) writes:
- >Now this is my question: do hams *ever* talk about anything besides what
- >kind of rig (s)he's got, ham problems, ham equipment, etc? As a waiting
- >(as in for my ticket) prospective, I've liistened to the local repeaters,
- >and personally, the conversations seem pretty boring if that's all you
- >ever talk about. Have I missed anything? or something? Is the purpose
- >of ham radio to talk about the technicalities of it? I know that the
- >whole nature of it requires technicality, but isn't there more to
- >it than that?
-
- Sure. Hams also talk about their operations and illnesses a lot. Old
- people tend to be sick a lot. And then there's the continuous blather
- about traffic. One rare ocasions you'll stumble across a group that
- actually will tackle interesting topics. Some hams have a life outside
- radio. For the last two mornings, the discussion on my repeater has
- centered on restoring old Dodge Powerwagons. We also freely discuss
- politics, Unix wizard tricks, and the merits of .410 shotshell derringers
- versus .22 Mag derringers as belly guns. We try to keep the ham radio
- related discussions off-line and handle that at lunches and over the
- telephone. Seems somehow "business related" to talk about radio on
- the radio.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:37:56 GMT
- From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!mixcom.com!kevin.jessup@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <kmeyer.3b0x@bbs.xnet.com>, <1994Mar2.175938.12119@alw.nih.gov>, <1994Mar3.144159.3607@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: Further criminalization of scanning
-
- >>public about what is going on. The public will demand encrypted
- >>cordless phones and the manufacturers will deliver. Then the radio
- >>voyeurs have more challenges to liven up the sport :-). All the law is
- >>going to do is damage the lives of the very few people who get caught and
- >>damage the lives of the many who blab all sorts of confidential information
- >>on their cordless phones.
-
- I agree. I really have no interest in listening to cordless or cellular
- conversations. As an amateur radio operator and EE, I either own or, if
- the challenge arose, could build the equipment needed to monitor.
-
- Once the government starts making the interception of certain signals
- illegal, therein lies the challenge! Once you have somthing "cracked"
- the fun is gone, IMHO. Same for digital encryption. The fun is in
- cracking the code. Or at least getting to that point. Once the code
- is cracked, it's time to move on. The only way to know if any
- encryption method is secure is to ENCOURAGE people to crack it. As
- with monitoring cellular and cordless phones, passing laws does
- nothing. Same with digital encryption. If you have to pass a law
- against breaking a code, how good is the code in the first place??
-
- If you find such things intersting, check out sci.crypt, also on
- the internet.
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